blackcat wrote:It is not the belief which makes these posters filth. I have already said they do not even believe it themselves. It is the fact they take so much trouble - and it is a fair bit of time and effort they dedicate - to oppose us. Does your mother post lie after lie here?
Here's a "devil filth lies" question for you blackcat ....
If a 9/11 newbie came here and asked about the extent of the fires in WTC7, would you say "there were isolated fires on a few floors" or would you have the honesty to show them this :
jsut_peopel wrote:
I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.
Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.
Ive just watched it myself and it has made me think. A lot.
Get away from Critics Corner as soon as possible before you start growing fur and claws.
Good luck.
'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.'
-Johnny Pixels
prole art threat wrote:You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
That says it all really, you desperately want 9/11 to be an inside job because you hate and despise Bush and the neo-cons. That is quite understandable, but examining the evidence requires a calm and rational approach. Trying to twist it to fit a preconceived idea is ultimately self-defeating, as I believe you realise from your impassioned attacks on critics.
You must love us really, this is the only part of the site that has any vitality!
prole wrote:Photoshop is a wonderful and splendid thing.
EXACTLY!! And he wants "honesty" from others.
There's that fuc*ing smell again. You just can't keep the ar*eholes under the bridge! Yet another reason for not tolerating them - they won't stay in their gutter.
You should both speak to John White about how to find counselling or therapy.
So remember - next time you can't find a parking spot, go to plan B: blow up your car
jsut_peopel wrote:
I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.
Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
Please don't lecture me on things you clearly know very little about. You know nothing of my politics, please don't try to presume for me.
Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.
prole art threat wrote:You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
That says it all really, you desperately want 9/11 to be an inside job because you hate and despise Bush and the neo-cons. That is quite understandable, but examining the evidence requires a calm and rational approach. Trying to twist it to fit a preconceived idea is ultimately self-defeating, as I believe you realise from your impassioned attacks on critics.
You must love us really, this is the only part of the site that has any vitality!
Wanting something and something existing independently are two different things. A myth or a fairy tale is no more objective than a desire or need. But needing myths to justify objective reality is a neo-con art, or more precisely lies distortions and halftruths, which do not in the end exist independently of desires. The desire for war and global conquest required 9/11 as the pretext.
prole art threat wrote:Fuuck off, you are all yanks, this is a british website.
It is so obvious they are paid shills.
People keep saying this. WHERE IS MY PAYCHECK?!?
By the way, PAT, thanks for changing your sig. Much more easy on the eyes.
(Some of us are very conscientious about our oil consumption. I only have to kill one child every other week to fuel my car; my wife goes through them like peanuts.)
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prole art threat wrote:
Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
So THAT's why the structural engineers all agree with the official story! They're too hung up on things like load limits and failure analysis, and they fail to take the socio/political aspects of the collapse into consideration!
Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?
Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?
Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?
Hmmmm let me think.
Can we call people rag heads?
I was using the term to illustrate how the simplistic answer has had the effect of stereotyping and demonising certain people, no offence intended.
I do remember hearing an interview with an American comedian on 5live days after the event where he used this phrase.
Amen to that.
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
Occums Razor:
A bunch of mega rich greedy powerful individuals with access to everything needed to pull of and cover up this atrocity..?
OR
A bunch of rag heads in a cave half a world away?
Hmmmm let me think.
I think you missed an option:
A well-funded, well-prepared group of foreign nationals living in America whose sponsors had found a way to exploit gaps in security, using a low-tech, straightforward approach combined with a willingness to die to achieve spectacular results.
jsut_peopel wrote:
I am not a yank or a shill. I am English and an engineer.
Jsut, you are on your way to becoming a full-on, fanged-up traitor to humanity, You need to start thinking beyond engines, bolts, sprockets and concrete and try to put things into a socio/political perspective.
Please watch this documentary and get a handle of what is going on in that lunatic asylum we call AmeriKa.
Ive just watched it myself and it has made me think. A lot.
Get away from Critics Corner as soon as possible before you start growing fur and claws.
Good luck.
I'm English too. And I have a degree in engineering. I'll think you'll find that trying to look beyond nuts and bolts is why you're so confused. The towers fell because of physics. There can be all the socio-politcal factors in the world, but they won't change physics. That's why I did engineering at university, because its a subject with answers, not opinions.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. - Umberto Eco
jackchit wrote:
The cretins. oops I mean "critics" are a total waste of space, they employ diversionary tactics whilst addressing nothing in the way of actual evidence.
I'm still waiting for this unaddressed evidence you guys keep talking about. We continually address all the evidence, you just ignore it and keep on yammering about unaddressed evidence.
Occums Razor:
There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.
There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.
wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...
But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?
There are two accepted spellings of it, and you missed them both.
wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...
But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?
If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.
jackchit wrote:
wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...
But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?
If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.
Disagree and pick up on spelling mistakes.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. - Umberto Eco
jackchit wrote:
wow the spelling police are rife here, although you prove my point that nit picking is all you cretins are capable of.
Nice post, well done...
But you seem to be proving the criticism often made that "truthseekers" evade the central issue and change the subject when caught in a tight spot. How about dealing with the more substantive issue and telling us what this unaddressed evidence consists of?
If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence that the 911 comissions report was floored, so even if you are not convinced that 911 was a self inflicted wound you should still be calling for a proper open inquiry/investigation, or is the loss of 3000 lives plus the deaths in wars as a result, not good enough for you?
The problem with people like you is you are simply here to disagree and nothing else.
You are trying to change the subject again. Clearly you are not able actually to point out any unaddressed evidence. This is unsurprising. All the alleged evidence that 9/11 was an inside job simply crumbles into dust when examined. There were flaws in the way the commission was originally established and Bush's attitude to it was appalling, but in the end it did a reasonable job. Nothing that has since emerged casts any substantial doubt on its main conclusions, and the NIST investigations into the building failures have been as thorough as they could be. I see no purpose whatsoever in another investigation. It would be far better to devote yourself to crticising Bush's disastrous foreign policies than attacking him on a subject where actually he is innocent and therefore unassailable.
For even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist... trying to stifle free speech and dissent is basically fascism. Stifling free speach and dissent is a strange avenue towards "truth".
jackchit wrote:
If you can't see it by now then what is the point, look around you there is plenty of evidence
And you wonder why I compare you guys to religion. "If you don't just SEE IT, I can't help you!". In the real world, we back up our statements with evidence, we don't substitute platitudes for proof. "ITS SO OBVIOUS" doesn't constitute evidence.
Repeating, over and over and over, that there are unaddressed issues doesn't make it true. The issues have been addressed, and consequently ignored by those who can't hear the answers in between all the yelling and screaming about a lack of answers.
