Suspect Nation - Mon 20th Nov, 9pm - More4

Narinder · Post by **Narinder** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:02 pm

21:00-22:00 - Suspect Nation (Documentary) - More4

The man who crossed swords with Tony Blair on civil liberties sets out to discover just how far the state is prepared to go to monitor the nation's movements in Suspect Nation. From CCTV cameras to internet searches and Oyster cards to iris scans, Observer columnist Henry Porter asks: How is information being collected? What is it being used for? And could new identity technology actually put at risk the very people it seeks to protect?

http://www.channel4.com/more4/documenta ... jsp?id=107

telecasterisation · Post by **telecasterisation** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:40 am

You highlight an excellent programme, but of course the impact will be greatly diluted by the proliferation of stations. Gone are the days of just three channels, there are now hundreds, not to mention Jan Leeming has been nominated to do another bush tucker trail on I'm A Celebrity, so I know what most of the nation will be glued to at 21:00 (video tape recorders not withstanding).

Busker · Post by **Busker** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:40 am

I've argued from the day ID Cards were first mooted that putting all my identity eggs in one basket isn't good.

If I loose one form of identity it has a defined scope. The ID Card will have your whole life on a single unit.

It's just simple risk management.

dontbelievethehype1970 · Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:01 am

Hi, is there nay chance someone could record this and upload to google video?

ta!

article from Henry Porter, the author of this report, here:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/ ... 07,00.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... llance.htm

Fallious · Post by **Fallious** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:16 am

Sounds good, I'll see if I can grab it and upload.. got some mighty upload bandwidth restrictions here though.

dontbelievethehype1970 · Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:47 am

Fallious,

that would be great, thanks, shame about the bandwidth.

I cannot understand why tv channels dont stream over the net, after all, they're always complaigning about the loss of viewers to the internet. Sureley it would increase their advertising reach.

blackcat · Post by **blackcat** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:24 am

I cannot understand why tv channels dont stream over the net,

They do. You can watch some BBC TV programmes for up to a week after broadcast and listen again to most radio broadcasts.

Narinder · Post by **Narinder** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:28 am

I'll record it and upload it to google!

telecasterisation · Post by **telecasterisation** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:14 pm

Just a pointer Narinder, on your website - is that a major typo?

Narinder · Post by **Narinder** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:21 pm

telecasterisation wrote:Just a pointer Narinder, on your website - is that a major typo?

LOL! thanx for pointing that MAJOR typo out!

Hazzard · Post by **Hazzard** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:37 pm

This is all leading towards RFID implantation.

Why beat around the bush we all know it is.

telecasterisation · Post by **telecasterisation** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:51 pm

Narinder wrote:
telecasterisation wrote:Just a pointer Narinder, on your website - is that a major typo?
LOL! thanx for pointing that MAJOR typo out!

I appreciate that it might not seem much of a problem. However, from the perspective of someone who visited your site, the first thing I find myself asking is 'Muti' a religion, is it your name?

It is only when you go deeper, you realise it is a mistake in the very core of what the information is designed to get people to think about. This for me, makes doubt creep in from the very outset.

If I intended to buy a book on a simlar subject and the title was obviously printed incorrectly, the author wouldn't be much of an authority in my opinion. You read 'Muti', but see 'Multi' - I have to ask, who is the one under an illusion?

flamesong · Post by **flamesong** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:53 pm

Er... when it comes to choosing champions to stand up against the culture of surveillance - let's not have Henry Porter. He just rolled his bleedin' sleeve up!

paul wright · Post by **paul wright** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:28 am

flamesong wrote:Er... when it comes to choosing champions to stand up against the culture of surveillance - let's not have Henry Porter. He just rolled his bleedin' sleeve up!

And in his own words barcoded himself
I think we can take from the programme Porter is aware that far more than that is going on

Tumbongo · Post by **Tumbongo** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:22 pm

dh wrote:
And in his own words barcoded himself
I think we can take from the programme Porter is aware that far more than that is going on

I've been reading his coloumn the past few weeks and get that impression,
been thinking about contacting him, anyone tried him?

I look forward to watching this

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:08 pm

If he knows the score about the agenda - Why has given his power away and acepted the Chip?

I'am gonna email and tell him that he will find it a lot harder to get the chip removed.

fixuplooksharp · Post by **fixuplooksharp** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:43 am

has anyone uploaded it to google yet? i missed it!

paul wright · Post by **paul wright** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:31 am

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 2&hl=en-GB

http://westyorkshiretruth.aceboard.com/ ... gin=225988