Flight 77 black box data

Snowygrouch · Post by **Snowygrouch** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:53 pm

All,
Myself and "tech team" are now about to crack open the complete origional raw binary data file ALEDGED to come from FLight 77 (you know the one that "hit" the 5 sided sort of place

)

This has been facilitated by very very generous help from an aviation insider. She has given me the complete "data frame layouts" for the Boeing 757 series aircraft which gives EVERYTING we need to complete the operation.

It`s now only a matter of days before we finish the job.

The previous posts by me about the differences with the Animation I got from the NTSB and the actual path of the object were met with enthusiasm but a realisation by all (esp the critics corner chaps) that without full access to the raw binary code it could not be demed cast iron.

That will shortly not be an issue!!

For the "interested parties" reading this; copies of it are already VERY well distributed

Anyway so soon we will be able to PROOVE absolutely beyond any doubt if the black box data is fake (or not.....it might happen?....).

The full results will of course be posted here as soon as they happen.

Then its off to BBC central offices with a laptop and a determined facial expression.

C.

Fallious · Post by **Fallious** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:09 pm

Wowsa, fantastic work. Just out of intrest how did you get at and display the data?

Snowygrouch · Post by **Snowygrouch** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:19 pm

Ahhhh......(he says with a wistful expression).....

THAT would be telling now wouldn't it??

Actually you`ll have to ask our computer bod that one, and I`m not telling you who it is.

Basically its just a matter of converting binary to ASCII. That is a bit like the following

001100111001001 <then becomes> WORD1=345

This is bloody useless as you get about half a million lines like that, but with the data frames it tells you what each number actually IS. So for example WORD1 could be groundspeed in MPH. So without the data frame its effectively completely useless.

Something like that anyway. I`m the intel gatherer not the number cruncher......

C.

Fallious · Post by **Fallious** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:53 pm

I wasn't so interested in the people, (marvellous as you are) rather the actual data processing. I've done some reverse engineering in my time (just tinkering, mind) so I know where they'd have started. I was more interested if there was publicly available commercial software to interpret the data, which I'm guessing is a solid 'no'. Anyhow, best of luck with the BBC.

Snowygrouch · Post by **Snowygrouch** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:00 pm

Yes there is commercially available software for decoding black box data files. If you dont mind paying £10,000 a go!

Avionica and Flightscape make the packages.

If you meant decompilers in general I`m sure you can "get hold" of one on www.katz.ws

Anyway...

ComfortablyNumb · Post by **ComfortablyNumb** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:05 am

This is excellent news. it great to actually read that some real research is being done rather than just trawling YouTube.

Cant wait to hear the results

Numb

Hazzard · Post by **Hazzard** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:52 am

01000110010 0010101 0101010010101 101 1010011 101010 01101

So yeah good luck

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Andrew Johnson · Post by **Andrew Johnson** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:42 am

I wish you success in your efforts Calum.

All we can each do is expose the lies and inconsistencies in the official story. Analysis Flight recorder data is yet another aspect of that.

wickywoowoo · Post by **wickywoowoo** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:19 pm

On a similar note to this, has anyone ordered some DVD's from the Pilots for 9/11 website?

They are selling some DVD's centered about Black Box information, aren't they? At least that is what I thought it was when I ordered it, lol.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:23 pm

You mean the pilots for 9/11 who are basically selling Calum's work without crediting him, and claiming to have made the FIA request themselves in interviews?

Some good stuff on their site, but they're scum bags. I wouldn't give them money.

wickywoowoo · Post by **wickywoowoo** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:49 pm

Stefan wrote:You mean the pilots for 9/11 who are basically selling Calum's work without crediting him, and claiming to have made the FIA request themselves in interviews?

Some good stuff on their site, but they're scum bags. I wouldn't give them money.

Well, don't I get good about purchasing from them now....

Snowygrouch · Post by **Snowygrouch** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:52 pm

I`d like to make a VERY important clarification here.

1: Pilots for truth DID get the raw black box data file from FOIA request
2: I got the NTSB Animation which shows the flightpath
3: I got the data frame layouts which enable the raw file to be decoded

Pilots for truth ARE the people I work with (and have been on the sly for months and months).

I ENCOURAGE WITH UTMOST URGENCY that everyone DOES BUY from Pilots for Truth. Although I personally do not gain financially from their sales and have no particular need to do so.

Go to their website and buy all you want, its top quality and has my full endorsement.

The only prerequsite I gave PFT is that I am credited fully in any documentaries they make.

There are some really really good people there who I know (over the net at least) very well. They are good as gold and deserve your support for putting this all together.

There is absooultey NO WAY we would have got to this stage with the Flight Data Recorders without alot of help from both sides of the Atlantic!

Calum

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:03 pm

Fair enough Snowygrouch,
I've never seen any credit to you in any of their interviews or webpages, and depsite your recommendation, I still wont buy one of their DVDS. I appreciate the clarification on the FIA request though.

Pikey · Post by **Pikey** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:08 pm

This looks promising and a good start to 2007. Well done Snowy and please do keep us informed.

Hope that you can make the Blackpool gathering on 27-28th Jan .

Snowygrouch · Post by **Snowygrouch** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:33 pm

Pikey,
Really sorry but I`m starting Uni term again on the Monday so I really cant spare a weekend!

I`d love to have come up though. Perhaps another time?

C.