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Alan Watt on 911 truthers

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If we look at the major revolutions which the same organization have been behind they would start up clubs and organizations prior to revolutions to track members in. They then observe carefully the different members as they taught and they know they're be problems after the revolution because they were too intelligent and they could convey by speech and knowledge a reality to the ordinary people and get it across and those people who could do that their names were on the list and immediately after the revolutions they were rounded up and killed because the stage was set as it always is. The chessboard was set in advance for this very thing.

And that's why long before 9/11 came along in 2001 there were many fakes out there in the so-called patriot land of the USA for instance and other countries. One was the most decorated General or Colonel in the U.S. Army from Vietnam had his own shortwave radio station for years. He used all the Masonic terminology in his talks on radio and pretended he was a patriot and was collecting the names of different people across the company and in the U.S. and right after 9/11 he was interviewed on the Congressional steps in Washington State by a major television station that was shown in Canada and it was obviously posed. He was there at the right time for the interview and it started off with the usual lead up and oh the most decorated Colonel in the U.S. Army, the Green Berets.

Well do you think was behind this 9/11? And he said - this man had just stopped being on the radio one month prior to that after four years solid encouraging this patriot movement supposedly. He says those crazy patriot people that run about in camouflage in the woods practicing for something that will never happen. They're paranoids who see black helicopters everywhere. This is the same man who said years before that he left the Pentagon where he worked with hip pocket orders. You see, you never retire from these positions and he collected the names of thousands of people who'd been trained through movies of John Wayne, and Rambo and et cetera, et cetera to worship the heroes represented. If he talks the same language as you. That's all they have to do is come down to your level and start talking your language and you fall for it because you're trained to worship people and you’re setup every time. You've got to stop doing it
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ ... 22_06.html

Alan Watt usual records without a script and the above is an example transcript. Pertinent I think in these troubled truth times
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Patrick Brown might like this...
And in a sense that's why Arthur C. Clarke's movie was put out called "2001" back in the 1960s to be a celebration of that which was to come and in the movie they go through a space journey. They show their religion of course based on evolution through species. It's all at the beginning of the movie and in book and so you have humans who are traveling in space who are now up against the next big challenge which is artificial intelligence where the computer Hal takes over and starts killing off the crew and the one male who overcomes Hal becomes a god because that's the mystery religion all tied up in a story form and they could have put the same story out at sea or on the earth somewhere but they put it in space, but it's the same esoteric meaning behind it where he who overcomes all and including the Grand Architect himself becomes God.
And in this paragraph the expat Scot is in top form when exposing our programming (TV- progam)
In Britain in the 50s when many people couldn't afford televisions - in the late 50s they started dumping on the market bringing shiploads in from the United States and which were reconditioned and going cheap because they wanted a TV in every home just like a computer in every home today. NEVER FOR OUR BENEFIT, BUT FOR THEIR BENEFIT. And the company that was putting them out across the country was called "DER" - DER which is RED backwards of course for the revolutionary part and sure enough we started getting the first reruns of older American TV shows. Law and order type things. Courtroom dramas. Perry Mason - Perry Mason, the lawyer series. And then hospitals which would then indoctrinate us that injections were good and put yourself in their hands because they know what they're doing and you can't question medicine. It's an ongoing perfect science and could direct our lives for us. It's all part of the propaganda. The law, courtroom dramas and hospital dramas. That's how we're indoctrinated. Adding a little human interest thing that sucks us into the story and we forget we're being downloaded with propaganda.
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ ... 21_06.html

I would ask Alan though, just who is the Shadowy 'Elite' - the Big Boys. Where is their heart and head? Because I can see no higher than Rothschild and what the dynasty represents.
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Good sound advice

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Thanks for that link Rodin.
Alan Watt is on the ball for sure!
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Alan Watt is undoubtedly a learned and scholarly man. But he has nothing of worth to offer to the 'truth' movements, be that 9/11 or any other truth campaign. He has read a lot of books and formed a lot of theories. But he is not a campaigner, nor an activist involved in trying to improve human life, now or for the future. He is simply making a living from what he knows (or as someone recently said to me, he is a "victim of his own celebrity").

I heard Alan Watt on a radio show (one of the many radio shows he appears on) and he stated that he was now being contacted by the media from lots of countries, including Britain. I emailed him to ask who in Britain had contacted him (as I don't have any success trying to get the truth about Dunblane out here in Britain I was curious to know who had shown interest in his esoteric ramblings) and received the following reply on 11 January 2007:
Dear Sandra, I would rather not say who contacted me because of the trouble they've caused to me here. I was told that if I did not back a couple of well-known Brits(putting out disinformation) they'd tell the major shows over in the U.S. not to have me on(which they tried). There truly is no real free-press. All major stations are told what to make news and what to dismiss. Britain has led this system for a long time.
Is Alan Watt really such a threat to the 'establishment'? I don't think so. All his latest clap-trap about the internet (Yahoo bringing him down) is just a sop to get people to send him money so he can spend more time reading books and promoting his (WE ARE DOOMED!) theories.

Be warned. Stay away from this man

(oh, by the way, he is a Scotsman :wink: that was specially for Bongo 8) )
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Listen to Alan Watt hes allright mate....

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Alexsandie,
Why are you bothering to write about someone you dont think much of then?
911 truth movement is a more noticeble part of the wakeup of people finding out what is very wrong in the world and Alan Watt spoke of this before and after the event too.
Whats wrong with making money from what you believe in? Should we be working in arms factories by day and then preaching 911 truth by night to be respected?
There are some serious fragmentation and polarisations going on in this "movement" right now which is making me very wary of everyone who posts here.

Please stop wasting our time, we will destroy ourselves if we focus on censoring "this person is not really 911", blah blah baaaaaaah
Information is meant for sharing, to really increase its value.
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Jacob...
"911 truth movement is a more noticeble part of the wakeup of people finding out what is very wrong in the world."
... that's brilliant... can I use it too? 8)

Reminds me of V for Vendetta...
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So I'm not the only one who enjoys Alan Watts soporific late night ramblings? (Well, I usually play his latest blurb at bedtime)

As someone said....so what if he is able to make a few bob at what he is doing. Of course he is a campaigner. He awakens thousands to what is really going on. We all campaign in different ways.

I admire you, Sandra, for your work on the Dunblane coverup but I think you are wrong about Alan. He had the decency to reply to an e mail of mine so I like him even more.
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Bongo...
Of course, sometimes I'm not sure if anyone can understand what i write most the time!
Yes I have been inspired by "V for Vendetta"ever since I watched it.

Re: Alan Watt and others. We have to read and listen to people with knowledge before we can really be activists really.

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I will admit that I initially found Alan Watt's stuff fascinating, but the bottom line is, if he really believes that a Satanic conspiracy has been played out over thousands of years which ultimately led to the new world order which includes plans to depopulate the planet and that this is what led to the legalisation of abortion, then the man is either deluded or has no real life experience.

I don't believe there is any Satanic conspiracy at work, but if I did, then I could equally contend that allowing women to die from back-street abortion was the work of the Devil. You could argue just as strongly that such deaths caused depopulation, which the globalists want apparently.

I know the subject of abortion is particularly divisive, and there are no easy answers. But I'm sorry, I'm a rational human being and when I hear some of the stuff guys like Alan Watt say on this subject, I wonder if it isn't simply misogyny in disguise. In fact, there appears to be quite a lot of that in the 9/11 truth movement, including Alex Jones, Jeff Rense and others. I find it quite ironic that the official version of events re 9/11 was that it was an attack on western values, which in part included the advancement of women through education and employment, and then what do we see as part of the mindset of certain male 9/11 truthers? Now that scares me. It is dangerous and deluded and it needs to be exposed. And I am entitled to my opinion of course.
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No 'truther' should be trusted. What really matters is truth. People are fallible. Watt should be taken for what he is - someone with a story to tell and a mine of information to draw on. But as to the Satanic Elite part of it-well, let's get the perps of 911 and see where it leads.

'I was sitting inside the classroom - the TV was obviously on - I saw the plane hit the tower and thoought gee what a terrible pilot musta been a horrible accident...' Bush

'Our purpose was to document the event' Mossad agent

There were numerous witnesses cited who saw 4 backpackers on the train from Luton - a ghost train from platform 9 3/4 which was cancelled.

Just the above should bring the house of cards down.
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I havent looked at the subject of abortion in Watts work however I would agree that there is an overall agenda for the human race to be manipulated and depopulated.

I know there are rare circumstances where abortion has to be taken into consideration but ultimately abortion is about killing, as is war.
As much is there are unseen forces at work here which want to make things better in the world, there are demonic forces too, inviting more blood sacrifice.

Foot and Mouth disease, Bird flu, The false war on terror, Abortion. The focus is on making life appear as if it has no value. That we are just matter, all an accident, from the big bang. that patterns are just coincidences.
This is a false belief system more than having a belief that life should be valued and people should take responsiblity for their actions.
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"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside-down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality"

- Michael Ellner
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Foot and Mouth disease, Bird flu, The false war on terror, Abortion. The focus is on making life appear as if it has no value. That we are just matter, all an accident, from the big bang. that patterns are just coincidences.
How simplistic. A bit like Alan Watt.
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No 'truther' should be trusted. What really matters is truth. People are fallible. Watt should be taken for what he is - someone with a story to tell and a mine of information to draw on. But as to the Satanic Elite part of it-well, let's get the perps of 911 and see where it leads
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Watt makes a good case in many ways: but he is dour and cynical in his outlook, and throws out far to many arrows for them all to be on target: if he has a failing, its that his vision is unable to encompass solutions and inevitably his thoughts do veer towards the potentially paranoid too often to feel entirley comfortable that his vision is clear: balanced of course by his flashes of potential genius
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Hello all, new here. Looks like a fun place.

I'd like to add my own 2 cents, in that I think it's time for the Truth Movement to refine itself. I don't like to listen now to just anyone who spews 75% factual evidence and 25% emotionally-driven gunk. I've heard Alan Watt, and although I was initially intrigued (and informed in many ways), I've now fallen out of love with his shtick, as it were. I agree that to the absolute 'newbies', it may help wake them up. But I'm beyond it now, and with serious researchers - as I assume most of us fancy ourselves to be, it's counter-productive.

Think of 9/11 as a court case - which it is, in many ways. Bad witnesses with bad evidence will get your case lost every time. If your star witness can describe the crime scene in great detail, and point your suspect out of a lineup, then claim he was late getting to court because he had been temporarily abducted by Satanists.... his testimony is trashed (for more info, google 'Ross Perot'). But I admit, the belief system is a belief system.

Also, I just can't listen to the negative stuff anymore, as if I'm being programmed to simply accept the NWO as an inevitable political progression. I need some hope, some positive vibes, you know?

But I also need some intelligent debate, so... I'm here. :wink:
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Hi Doctor and welcome

We will be redesigning the forum in the near future.

One of the new sections will be on visions and solutions for the future, which hopefully should contain lots of positivity
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ian neal wrote:Hi Doctor and welcome

We will be redesigning the forum in the near future.

One of the new sections will be on visions and solutions for the future, which hopefully should contain lots of positivity
That's great, although I was referring to the Alan Watts and Alex Joneses of the 9/11 Movement, and the resulting hypnotic, negative trance-like effect that comes from too many hours of their audios (been there, done that). I don't mind negativity in a forum, because I bring my own positivity with me (I have a 9-year positivity lease, with an option to buy). The callers to those shows at times seem to be screened for "maximum depressive impact." :wink:

The 2 parameters in question to me are these (1) the listener is mildly psy opped into negative acceptance of power elite control by the "we are all doomed!" approach (whether intended as such or not), and (2) the 9/11 fence-sitters of higher intellect are, IMO, put off by the overall craziness and references to items such as Satanism, aliens, chemtrails, etc. (No, I don't really buy chemtrails, but that's another thread, I would assume.)

And thanks for the welcome.
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I don't mind negativity in a forum, because I bring my own positivity with me (I have a 9-year positivity lease, with an option to buy). The callers to those shows at times seem to be screened for "maximum depressive impact."

The 2 parameters in question to me are these (1) the listener is mildly psy opped into negative acceptance of power elite control by the "we are all doomed!" approach (whether intended as such or not)
LOL Dr Z! Would you be prepared to sell me just 1-year of your 9-year positivity lease?!??!

But seriously, this is a very important point. There is definitely a 'cult' mentality involved in the Watt-phenomenon. How did such a dour Scot :wink: get such credibility amongst the 9/11 truth participants? He might just as well tell us all at bedtime, when we're innocently supping our cocoa: go hang yourself now! (according to Watt, the Scottish Highland Clearances was the 9/11 of that time. Right!)

We endlessly see people who set themselves up as foreboding soothsayers, telling us what doom we can expect in the future. Watt, and others of his ilk, have made a name for themselves telling us about all the doom of the past and how it is leading to further doom in the future.

Look, 9/11 was an atrocity of great magnitude. That isn't in question. We all know that. I strongly and passionately feel that those who orchestrated it must be brought to justice. How does someone like Alan Watt help with this? He doesn't. It's as simple as that.

Dr Z, I'm sure you've seen the Fintan Dunne stuff about Alex Jones. You can find the Brits response to it here:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6997

or go direct to Dunne's own website, Break for News at:

http://www.breakfornews.com/
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