the hole in the wall. Pentagon?

ishaar · Post by **ishaar** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:05 pm

I posted this pic in an earlier post, (scroll down to the 7th pic)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

Is this supposed to be a pic of the hole in the outside wall of the pentagon caused by the alleged jet? I would have expected to see some of the windows which seem to be evenly spaced.

SHERITON HOTEL · Post by **SHERITON HOTEL** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:44 pm

UGH! this is a government shill 911 "debunker" link, I'll have to go and have a bath!!

ishaar · Post by **ishaar** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:13 pm

Wow! Just goes to show how easy it is to be called a shill! I know it's a site attempting to prove, with no success, a jet crashed into the pentagon, my question is related to a pic on that site ..... jeeeez!

If it is a pic of where the alleged plane hit, it certainly doesn't look like it, no marks at all from the wings.

By the way, I found the site while trying to find out more about the guy, Mete Sozen, on the bbc doc' who claimed to have merged realistic animation with physical simulation to create his 'evidence'. As I said in my original post, he said the simulation shows how the damage to the pentagon was caused by the mass of the plane plus it's fuel. What he didn't / couldn't explain is why the damage took the form of a small hole, neither did he account for the 'mass' of the engines contacting the wall. or the lack of fire damage. So his 'evidence' is worthless.

Now, can someone answer my question please, is that a photo of the pentagon crash site, or is it some derelict building in downtown Manhattan?

Enjoy ur bath

ishaar · Post by **ishaar** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:15 pm

Sheriton. just realised you were referring to the site.....

Thermate · Post by **Thermate** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:58 am

The main problem I have with the Pentagon is there should be 3 holes, not one...

Mark Gobell · Post by **Mark Gobell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:15 am

That's supposed to be an exit hole not an entrance hole.

stav · Post by **stav** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:53 am

mark is correct ishaar, that hole is the exit hole in the E ring. this hole was supposed to be made from the cockpit area of the plane. how the cockpit area composed of aluminium and steel managed to go through 3 seperate walls of reinforced concrete then leave only this hole and vaporise at the same time has not been explained. also if there was enough momentum to take the cockpit area to this point where are the engines, wouldn't they also penetrate the wall on either side of this hole.

Mark Gobell · Post by **Mark Gobell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:43 am

I think that they claim the exit wound was caused by the landing gear.

ishaar · Post by **ishaar** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:07 am

Thanks for clarifying that. I like the little animation they have on that site, the one were they draw an outline of a jet around the outline of distant buildings, then fill in the outline with a pic of a jet....hilarious.

Mark Gobell · Post by **Mark Gobell** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:13 am

The guy's "analysis" animation also showing the wings disintegrating inside the building and the fuel starting to burn - yet no sign that the wings could have entered the building in the first place.

ishaar · Post by **ishaar** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:20 pm

There must have been a lot of parameter tweaking with that simulation, if indeed it is a simulation and not just an animation. In a simulation you determine the physical properties, mass etc' of all objects in the scene, you can literally make it do anything you want.

Rational thought is under attack. Perhaps why a growing number within the science community are starting to rebel:

What do 60 of the world's most influential scientists* have in common?
They all agree that the Bush administration has systematically distorted scientific fact to meet its political goals on issues ranging from military intelligence to health to the environment and more.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeacti ... 1172066914