BBC World reported WTC7 collapse before it happened

SHERITON HOTEL · Post by **SHERITON HOTEL** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:37 pm

Re. 'the BBC would have filtered out this anomoly' Wasn't there a Beeb web page kicking around (only rectified last summer) that rewrote history claiming WTC7 "burned to the ground"?

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:38 pm

telecasterisation wrote:Might be useful to have a still available;

Whats your pic? The link isn't working.

locsen · Post by **locsen** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:55 pm

has anyone else managed to post a link to this on any bbc message boards???

marky 54 · Post by **marky 54** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:57 pm

im sorry to be a party pooper but what are we relying on for the time of broadcast? if i reposted this clip on youtube and claimed it was broadcast at 16:25 on 9/11 would anyone know any differant? or just believe me?
i see no clock that usually is inserted on bbc new 24 which they would of switched to for full coverage on the day.

was bbc news 24 around then? im not sure but my point is what are we relying on for broadcast time?

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:59 pm

marky 54 wrote:im sorry to be a party pooper but what are we relying on for the time of broadcast? if i reposted this clip on youtube and claimed it was broadcast at 16:25 on 9/11 would anyone know any differant? or just believe me?
i see no clock that usually is inserted on bbc new 24 which they would of switched to for full coverage on the day.

was bbc news 24 around then? im not sure but my point is what are we relying on for broadcast time?

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7523

mods should merge this thread with the above to avoid confusion

locsen · Post by **locsen** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:01 pm

someone said on the same subject on a different heading that at one point the newsreader says "it is now 8 hours since the attacks"

doesnt put a definate time on it, but its a start

I have posted it on the "have your say" bbc news bit with a link and a general question about it, but it gets taken off, saying due to volume of emails etc

perhaps someone else can try?

at least to give them the chance to respond/whatever

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:02 pm

locsen wrote:has anyone else managed to post a link to this on any bbc message boards???

I have, but the Bullshitting * Crew never post what I write. Chickens.

locsen · Post by **locsen** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:04 pm

I have, but the Bullshitting * Crew never post what I write. Chickens.

yeah i think they might have me IP banned

cant think why

mason-free party · Post by **mason-free party** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:08 pm

http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/02/26/the ... s-the-gun/

February 26, 2007
THE SMOKING GUN WTC7, BBC JUMPS THE GUN !!!
9/11 Building 7 Collapse - WTC7 23 Minute Warning - Salomon Brothers Building

BBC Error ! Huge smoking gun of pre-knowledge collapse of WTC7 *911blogger.com

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30CPAN8rbo[/youtube]

“On September 11th 2001, BBC World reported at 4:57pm Eastern Time that the Salomon Brothers Building (more commonly known as WTC7 or World Trade Building 7) had collapsed.

This even made the 5pm EST headlines, what is bizarre is that the building did not actually collapse until 5:20pm EST.

9/11 was unusual enough, without BBC World being able to foretell the destiny of WTC 7.

What is even stranger, is that the women reporter is telling the world that the building had collapsed when you can see it in the background over her left shoulder.

Then at 5:15pm EST, just five minutes before the building did actually collapse, her live connection from New York to London mysteriously fails.

So the question is, on 9/11 how did the BBC learn that WTC7 collapsed 23 minutes before it actually did.

Building Seven was 47 storeys, modern in design with structural steel throughout, yet symmetrically collapsed in 6.5 seconds, was someone leaking information.

No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire, before or after 9/11, most people who find out about WTC7, believe it was brought down by a controlled demolition, even demolition experts agree.” *911Blogger.com

It’s here!!! The smoking gun of 9/11 that can not be disputed. BBC reporters jump the gun reporting the collapse of WTC7 until they cut the feed just 5 minutes prior to the actual demolition. People, the news is choreographed, this proves it and shows how wide spread the disinfo goes. No more denial, this is it….. they have to strike now. I can’t wait for the spin on this blunder, it will be extremely brazen. The timeline is indeed accurate given the anchor’s comments at 00:17:30 into the video where he states “it has been some 8 hours since the attack.” 9 am plus 8 equals 5 pm !!!!! If this clip is faked, then they did an excellent job and we need to know who did it.

**EDITORS NOTE**… PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE A DUPLICATE OF THIS VIDEO IN CASE IT IS PULLED!!!

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:09 pm

Alasdair wrote: I hope the poster on Google has got copies of this footage scattered around. Seems a prime candidate for Google culling it.

I'm currently downloading the 1024mb original for backup.

SHERITON HOTEL · Post by **SHERITON HOTEL** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:09 pm

Excellent still Graham,thank you, that female reporter has the westerly sun shining on the right side of her face identically aligned to the sun on the objects (including wtc7) behind her. Can't you tell the time by the sun?

Any response from 'aunty' yet?

marky 54 · Post by **marky 54** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Serge wrote:
marky 54 wrote:im sorry to be a party pooper but what are we relying on for the time of broadcast? if i reposted this clip on youtube and claimed it was broadcast at 16:25 on 9/11 would anyone know any differant? or just believe me?
i see no clock that usually is inserted on bbc new 24 which they would of switched to for full coverage on the day.

was bbc news 24 around then? im not sure but my point is what are we relying on for broadcast time?
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7523

mods should merge this thread with the above to avoid confusion

cheers for the link to make me aware of the other thread.
i just hope what ever points to the broadcast time can be proved beyond doubt and whatever it is that points to the broadcast time needs pointing out as a point of intrest. we cannot trust the graphics telling us the time overlaid by someone else.

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:14 pm

ahhh, didn't see thread in Articles section. Haven't been there for a few days.

QuitTheirClogs · Post by **QuitTheirClogs** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:18 pm

Near the start of the video (@ 0:50) it states:

The following footage is public domain and for research purposes

Thanks to the BBC and archive.org for publishing their live feed for 9/11

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1749234824

So presumably the BBC has made a decision to release this footage from its archive. Is there any way of getting confirmation of this?

jaclec · Post by **jaclec** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:21 pm

Being a little sceptical i paused the google video at 01 mins 06 seconds, (it gives you the link to archive.org)

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... 8591-16mpg

Surprisingly it informs you that the link you have requested is not available.
There is a link to find this items details page

http://www.archive.org/details/bbc200109111654-1736

This gives the information for the missing archive as BBC Sept. 11, 2001 4:54 pm - 5:36 pm (September 11, 2001)

It doesnt prove that the footage came from this archive but doing a search of archive .org
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query ... publicdate

i checked a few of the BBC archives at random and and they appear to be available, i wonder why this one is missing

WhoKilledBambi? · Post by **WhoKilledBambi?** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:21 pm

That is DYNAMITE

tomi01uk · Post by **tomi01uk** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:22 pm

How do you figure out what exact time this was broadcast? Is it time stamped anywhere. This is the core issue of this "smoking gun". Where is the exact proof of what exact time it was broadcast. Would the author of this thread please post an answer to this question me and many others have raised?

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:28 pm

QuitTheirClogs wrote:
So presumably the BBC has made a decision to release this footage from its archive. Is there any way of getting confirmation of this?

Looking at the directory list, theres footage in there from a LOT of stations. All in order in 40 min sections. I'll put the list up in a mo. It's quite big.

It almost seems like an "autosave" depository for several TV stations.

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:31 pm

tomi01uk wrote:How do you figure out what exact time this was broadcast? Is it time stamped anywhere. This is the core issue of this "smoking gun". Where is the exact proof of what exact time it was broadcast. Would the author of this thread please post an answer to this question me and many others have raised?

This all originates from the Loose Change forum. I posted what was picked up from there. I guess the person who posted it up on the LC forum might be best to get the answer.

At the moment, the time issue is being investigated. I will post any news on this as soon as I hear about it. Sorry I cannot provide the actual answer you are requiring.

Disco_Destroyer · Post by **Disco_Destroyer** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:31 pm

Don't worry there is blatent headline changing going on at MSN UK even while your reading an article! I read a story, hit the back button for the next link and wow wtf name change

What was this practice in '1984'?

mason-free party · Post by **mason-free party** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:39 pm

WhoKilledBambi? wrote:That is DYNAMITE

blasted hell Rodders...call the anti terrorist squad...we've nailed the bug-gers!!

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:45 pm

just watching it ffs.. how they gonna explain this one..

Busker · Post by **Busker** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:49 pm

Skeptic wrote:
hampton wrote: as there's no clock on the footage, how can we prove what time this aired?

first thing that came to mind

That occurred to me as well, however, you have the scene in background connected to the speech talking about the building already being gone. Hence my question as to whether it was a green screen background.

I've had a look at the higher quality version mpeg and cannot see the 'join' if it is.

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:51 pm

tomi01uk wrote:How do you figure out what exact time this was broadcast? Is it time stamped anywhere. This is the core issue of this "smoking gun". Where is the exact proof of what exact time it was broadcast. Would the author of this thread please post an answer to this question me and many others have raised?

not exactly what you are looking for, but not far off.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query ... publicdate

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:56 pm

This is a phone call made by a member of the PFT forum - recording made to BBC today, I believe: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/bbc_oops.mp3

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:59 pm

It wasn't there when I there, I'll try again later.

EXCELLENT news though.

Add this to the clip of the BBC reporter talking about a huge pre collapse explosion- we should start harvesting clips of BBC footage supporting 9/11 truth and send it with a box of chocolates to Guy Smith LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQfRoA0n40

There must be more out there- how about the BBC "expert" structural engineer on 12/9/2001 stating that the keronsene melted the steel? Ha!

Or the BBC reports of the still live hi-jackers?

Graham · Post by **Graham** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:00 pm

jaclec wrote:Being a little sceptical i paused the google video at 01 mins 06 seconds, (it gives you the link to archive.org)

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... 8591-16mpg

Surprisingly it informs you that the link you have requested is not available.

Works for me, you must have typed it wrong. (edit, you missed the . for the .mpg)

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... 591-16.mpg

fixuplooksharp · Post by **fixuplooksharp** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:17 pm

Serge wrote:This is a phone call made by a member of the PFT forum - recording made to BBC today, I believe: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/bbc_oops.mp3

ahaha that is jokes. The second woman on the phone is thinking oh shiat... That is if they understood what they he was actually implying, which i actually dont think the people he spoke to understand the significance of.

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:20 pm

fixuplooksharp wrote:
Serge wrote:This is a phone call made by a member of the PFT forum - recording made to BBC today, I believe: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/bbc_oops.mp3
ahaha that is jokes. The second woman on the phone is thinking oh shiat... That is if they understood what they he was actually implying, which i actually dont think the people he spoke to understand the significance of.

I found the behaviour of those BBC gimps very odd, especially the first woman... clearest case of 'oh *, I must not say anything'. Note how she wanted to cut off as fast as possible?.

jaclec · Post by **jaclec** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:46 pm

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Works for me, you must have typed it wrong. (edit, you missed the . for the .mpg)

http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... 591-16.mpg[/quote]

thanks ive found it now

anyone else wants to download the original its here

http://ia311516.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... 1654-1736/

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