9/11, 7/7, Covid-1984 & the War on Freedom

No more misdirection, Dogsmilk, thanks. This diversion is just wasting time and space. Perhaps you would have preferred it if I had used the Aletho link instead? The one I provided at least gave you a really smelly red herring to get your teeth into ;-)

Thermate911 wrote:No more misdirection, Dogsmilk, thanks. This diversion is just wasting time and space. Perhaps you would have preferred it if I had used the Aletho link instead? The one I provided at least gave you a really smelly red herring to get your teeth into

So let's recap. I ask you some perfectly reasonable questions about things you've said. You ignore them. Except you kind of try to explain your odd claim about 'centuries' of Zionism by mentioning Adam Weishaupt. But you can't say in what way he's relevant.
While accusing me of 'red herrings', you randomly post some article where someone lets their imagination run riot in some kind of idle daydream, apparently finding this to be some kind of stimulating and somehow relevant read. Maybe you just like short stories, I don't know.
And then, when I point out you've chosen to post this cobblers from some blatantly racist nutcase site you apparently read, this is supposedly "misdirection" and a "diversion" - though from what exactly remains unclear. How am I engaged in "misdirection" when it is you who have failed to answer what you were initially asked and chosen instead to arbitrarily post retarded drivel you found on some racist website?
If you had half a brain, you would indeed have used the Aletho version. Instead, you've revealed what kind of bigoted crank site you get your 'information' from.
Good luck with that.

When Thermate is able to tear himself away from his white nationalist web surfing, I was wondering if he'd care to ignore another question -

Perhaps you have had these quotes up so long, you have forgotten their true import? And whilst we're in this tedious pot-kettle-black loop, you seem to have sidestepped the 1933 International Jewry (ie: Banksters) declaration of war on Germany - why is that? It is most certainly "something you'll have to listen to one day".

Really? Do you mean actual war or tabloid headlines? I was under the impression some Jewish groups engaged in a 'don't buy German' campaign for the simple reason a lunatic who hated Jews and wasn't shy about telling them - and some of his men not shy about acting physically on this either - was elected. So I assume if, say, the BNP had been elected this year and Muslim groups had organised a 'don't buy British' campaign in response, this would be seen as an 'Islamic declaration of war' that would serve to exculpate the BNP if they then mimicked laws enacted by the Nazis against Jews - e.g. no 'interbreeding' with Aryans, forbidden from sitting on park benches, having a radio, driving a car, expelled from their jobs, businesses 'Aryanised' etc...this would all be justified...right?
Hell I guess you think 'boycott Israeli goods' campaigns are a 'declaration of war' on poor old Israel...right?

Otherwise, where was this actual war? I seem to have missed Jewish tanks rolling into Berlin in 1933 or, indeed, the all powerful jooos destroying the already fragile German economy that had more pressing problems already. Indeed, did Jews even daub swastikas on the windows of German businesses and have uniformed people standing outside trying to put them off going in as the Germans did to Jewish shops? (perhaps ironically German Jews tended not to support the boycott of German goods - they thought things would blow over and they had to live there).

It's interesting you claim "International Jewry* (ie Banksters)" declared this here war while going on about Edwin Black - Mr Black says the Jewish War Veterans and Rabbi Stephen Wise began organising the boycott. How strange.

*Jews, of course, are a Borg like hive mind that act as one and don't have different groups with different opinions.

Hey Dogsmilk. So surprised to see you on this thread.

Here's one for you:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNlVQhJ_ ... r_embedded[/youtube]

To Dogsmilk, Tony and everyone - Thermite911's obsession with THE JEWS!!! is simply a liability, it's not even rational criticism.

Thermite911, as the dissembler and crypto-Nazi he is, should be removed and banned form this forum ASAP and sent over to Stormfront where he belongs.

Thermite911 and his ilk do untold damage to 9/11 Truth, especially at this time of major resurgence in the wake of "Building What?" and many other developments.

At some point common sense and basic standards should prevail. I think that point has come.

Wakeymedia wrote:To Dogsmilk, Tony and everyone - Thermite911's obsession with THE JEWS!!! is simply a liability, it's not even rational criticism.

Thermite911, as the dissembler and crypto-Nazi he is, should be removed and banned form this forum ASAP and sent over to Stormfront where he belongs.

Thermite911 and his ilk do untold damage to 9/11 Truth, especially at this time of major resurgence in the wake of "Building What?" and many other developments.

At some point common sense and basic standards should prevail. I think that point has come.

Similarly, Andrew's rabid postings ie quoting the protocols and constant 'jew'-baiting. I'll be interested to see Gosling's response to this, will it be a long wait I wonder?

Wakeymedia,

People are less obsessed with 'The Jews' than you think.

Perhaps, rather, they stand firmly on a point of principle.......that recognising and respecting any enforced taboo on this forum is inappropriate and fundamentally wrong.......

......especially when recognition of that taboo means ignoring issues that go a long way to explaining the fearfulness of media, parliament and the public of standing up for their own interests and, even, fighting for our very survival.

Even though this forum has presented all the evidence that proves 9/11 was an 'inside job'. Even though the anomalies and evidence collected regarding 7/7 indicate incredibly strongly that 7/7 too was a case of a shadow government murdering its own people in order to advance a globalist political agenda, yet NOT A SINGLE MP HAS STOOD UP AND ASKED A SINGLE SKEPTICAL QUESTION ABOUT 9/11 OR 7/7 IN PARLIAMENT!

Does anyone really believe that a softly, softly strategy can ever work?

The silence of MP's and the media and the Churches and the Unions and whoever else....is as big an issue as 9/11 and 7/7 themselves. The fact that a Court of Law is busy jumping to false conclusions and violating its own principles by failing to examine the absence of suicide-bombers' bodies on the wrecked trains, tells us that the trouble goes deep, deep deep and mere presentations of evidence will never, on their own, work.

The psycho-spiritual fog that effectively obscures truth and so much else needs to be examined very closely and with courage.

Failure to recognise that our new religion, 'the Holocaust' (against which blasphemy is forbidden), plays a significant role in the creation and sustenance of our woes is simply folly. Failure to recognise the Frankfurt School brainwashing that has rendered society helpless is also a crippling self-imposed impediment to understanding how we have reached where we are today. The fact as straightforward as that very nearly all its creations are Jewish should surely not be overlooked.

It is quite possible that ordinary Jews are being set up to take the blame for a coming catastrophe.

This has happened before.

The hidden forces behind current events are Satanic and are very calculating and deceptive indeed.

They use Zionism as a tool and perhaps they use the Jewish people as a tool.

Ignore these issues?

Are you mad?

Well, I am glad to see someone is still rational on this thread, kbo.

Why this desperation in trying to defend Zionism, a soul-destroying global plague? Inexplicable, really.

I can fully understand the deep concern for the safety of one's tribe but I utterly fail to understand members of that same tribe defending that which is destroying them!

@Wakeymedia & Dogsmilk: Your attempts to label me what I most certainly am not are sadly transparent. I have pointed out time and time again that both Zionism and Nazism (a manifestation of the Thule Society) are compassionate mankind's real enemies, and that both these vile factions are themselves being financed and manipulated by a very small coterie of psychopaths.

I cannot put it plainer than that, yet you continually cloud the issues with non-stop diversionary entanglements & ad homina, which for some reason our editor chooses to ignore. However, even the most scurrilous attempts at character assassination are themselves most instructive for those attuned to such mechanisms.

Carry on, as it has become quite apparent that you have might (and to hell with the truth) on your side:-

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/11/isr ... -gaza.html

Unfortunately for the defense of such as the above example of 'Might', no amount of wealth, lies or weaponry can now stop the global moral outrage rapidly nearing boiling point...

Between them, Zionism and Nazism (= Usury & Fascism) have made an almost untenable desert of all that was good and wholesome in human nature. Hence, I cannot understand or trust in anyone who argues for the continuance of such soulless ideologies.

kbo234 wrote:Hey Dogsmilk. So surprised to see you on this thread.

Here's one for you:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNlVQhJ_ ... r_embedded[/youtube]

Ah yes. The solution to everything

If you find your nonsensical gibberish about Jews isn't going down too well, just post some gory stuff about Palestinians being killed by Israelis. This wins any argument remotely to do with Jews by default. This is because anyone who doesn't think Jews ('Zionists') are malign Luciferian profligates engaged in a Tavistock, Capitalist, Satanic, Marxist, Frankfurt School plot to destroy civilisation (as seen on teh interwebs) is a rabid Zionist MOSSAD agent who murders Palestinian children. It is simply impossible for someone to oppose Israeli policy without also believing Zionist Jews control the entire world and are hell bent on destroying/enslaving us all for some reason like Hollywood supervillains.

Hence:

Q: Can you tell me what actual research Nick Kollerstrom has undertaken?

A: Here's some dead Palestinians. You have your answer.

People are less obsessed with 'The Jews' than you think.

The fact as straightforward as that very nearly all its creations are Jewish should surely not be overlooked.

You're not obsessed with the Jews. It's just things are mainly their fault...right?

It is quite possible that ordinary Jews are being set up to take the blame for a coming catastrophe.

By people like you you mean?

Even though this forum has presented all the evidence that proves 9/11 was an 'inside job'. Even though the anomalies and evidence collected regarding 7/7 indicate incredibly strongly that 7/7 too was a case of a shadow government murdering its own people in order to advance a globalist political agenda, yet NOT A SINGLE MP HAS STOOD UP AND ASKED A SINGLE SKEPTICAL QUESTION ABOUT 9/11 OR 7/7 IN PARLIAMENT!

Absolutely. It totally beggars belief no MP is listening to people like you and taking to the floor of the House of Common demanding to know why Luciferian Zionist Jews of the Synagogue of Satan got away with 911 and 7/7 as part of their master plan of global Jewish dominance through the moral degeneracy of atonal pop music and faking the holohoax and anyone who disagrees is a MOSSAD agent.

I really can't understand it.

Failure to recognise that our new religion, 'the Holocaust' (against which blasphemy is forbidden)

Not in the UK it isn't. I suggested a separate 'Holocaust truth movement' so 911 truthers don't have to get annoyed with deniers trying to hijack their movement. How about it? It'd be well funny. Or are you all mouth and no trousers?

Failure to recognise the Frankfurt School brainwashing that has rendered society helpless is also a crippling self-imposed impediment to understanding how we have reached where we are today.

Do you mean that ring wing Christian paranoia piece you posted on your blog? That was sheer class. Nice retro chic too with that whole 'we still think it's the cold war and there's commies everywhere despite the blatant fact Capitalism rules the world' vibe. And I like the way it plays fast and loose, claiming people who had nothing to do with it were part of it. Some highlights -

One of the directors of the Authoritarian Personality project, R. Nevitt Sanford, played a pivotal role in the usage of psychedelic drugs. In 1965, he wrote in a book issued by the publishing arm of the UK’s Tavistock Institute:‘The nation, seems to be fascinated by our 40,000 or so drug addicts who are seen as alarmingly wayward people who must be curbed at all costs by expensive police activity. Only an uneasy Puritanism could support the practice of focusing on the drug addicts (rather than our 5 million alcoholics) and treating them as a police problem instead of a medical one, while suppressing harmless drugs such as marijuana and peyote along with the dangerous ones.” The leading propagandists of today’s drug lobby base their argument for legalization on the same scientific quackery spelled out all those years ago by Dr. Sanford.

Apart from disagreeing that cannabis is “harmless” (it can cause problems for some people) I'd say that's spot on. Alcohol is certainly more deadly than cannabis (curiously, in their bollocky right wing fear list of alleged Franfurt aims, one the of the more bizarre ones in 'excessive drinking' – apparently Mr Sanford (who's apparently Frankfurt school all of a sudden) didn't get the memo). And drug prohibition doesn't work – never has, never will. All it does is create a market with massive profit margins.
And what's wrong with drugs? People drink coffee – an addictive stimulant – don't they?
If they were legal, public health would be improved by them not being cut with garbage. Drug prohibition is totally irrational and an abject failure.

Adorno was to become head of a ‘music studies’ unit, where in his Theory of Modern Music he promoted the prospect of unleashing atonal and other popular music as a weapon to destroy society, degenerate forms of music to promote mental illness. He said the US could be brought to its knees by the use of radio and television to promote a culture of pessimism and despair - by the late 1930s he (together with Horkheimer) had migrated to Hollywood.
The expansion of violent video-games also well supported the School’s aims.

Wow – did Adorno invent death metal or something? He sounds more rockin' than I thought he was.And here's me thinking genres like Porngrind were just invented by random musicians thinking it'd be funny.
I've yet to encounter any kind of evidence pop music causes mental illness, let alone 'destroys society' but hey, it says it so it must be true.

I've recently been enjoying Fallout: New Vegas (despite all the bugs) – I thought this was a capitalist phenomenon of exploiting a potential market after Bethesda successfully bid for the dormant franchise for a cult title a few years ago, revamping it and making bucketloads of money. But apparently it's all a communist plot. With Satanic Jews behind it. Mind you, it's got drugs, gambling and even gay people in it – so I guess I should have realised.

Of course nobody knows nor cares exactly how in practical terms pop music and video games are some kind of conspiracy orchestrated by critical theorists – like who does what where and when in some kind of practical real world way. Or, like, if the people who made Doom had the foggiest idea Adorno & chums even existed. It all just happens by magic. And that's all you need to know.

This bit is fantastic -

This concept was pioneered in California in the 1960’s by psychologists William Coulson, Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow. It was based on ‘humanistic’ psychology, in which patients were regarded as the sole judge of their actions and moral behaviour. Having pioneered the technique of Values Clarification the psychologists introduced it into schools and other institutions such as convents and seminaries - with disastrous results. Convents emptied, religious lost their vocations and there was wholesale loss of belief in God. Why? Because Catholic institutions are founded on absolute beliefs in, for example, the Creed and the Ten Commandments. Values Clarification supposes a moral relativism in which there is no absolute right or wrong and no dependence on God.

Putting aside that again the Frankfurt school apparently now consists of whoever they arbitrarily decide it did – Remember kids! The next time your person centred counsellor says and how did that make you feel and listens congruently and empathically to your outpourings of inner turmoil, remember it's all a Zionist Marxist conspiracy! Carl Rogers was an agent of moral degeneracy! They should be reeling off the ten commandments and telling what to do goddammit! THINK OF THE CONVENTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly – I could spend all day on this. It's absolutely hilarious. I just cannot believe anybody could take this twaddle seriously or believe it's anything other than some disgruntled right winger unhappy with aspects of modern society going on with themselves and looking for a bogeyman to blame it all on.

I'm going to have to send a link to this drivel to my mate who's doing a PhD in cultural studies that touches on post Marxism – he'll wet himself laughing.

Oh yeah -

The primary piece of withheld experience would be the viewing of the hygenic gas-chamber, used for delousing clothes (i.e. keeping inmates healthy and fit for work). Its walls are stained deep blues and purples from the chemical reaction that took place between the iron in those walls and the cyanide in Zyklon B.

This would raise questions about the 'human' gas chambers which show no such staining.

Well if that's the case, the next time you see that senile old coot, please ask him to:
a/Read these -
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschw ... stry/blue/
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschw ... e-science/
(he might want to check out the expert report for the Irving trial too - he should know this stuff inside out already - right?)
b/Write his critique based on his amazing research
c/.Register on RODOH, post his critique and discuss it.

Let's see if he can manage that shall we? I'm betting it won't happen because he's consistently run away from the prospect of any kind of informed debate in his pioneering search for the truth.

And incidentally -

The presence of a swimming pool and theatre on the site are provable simple matters of fact though the swimming pool does have a notice in Hebrew beside it that says

Can you tell me what kind of relevance or importance the pool is supposed to have? Because I'm buggered if I can think of any.

I don't know anything about the theatre. Since it's a "provable simple matter", please provide me with some information - cheers.

I abhor taboos. There are no taboos here.
But racism is banned. And idiotic.
Since The Jews include so many nowadays who are not religious and the majority of modern Jews have no racial connection to the OT Jews whatever, it makes no sense to condemn all Jews under one term.

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin
Until then you are constantly self marginalising.

So what exactly is the taboo of which you speak?
Or are you just paranoid?

kbo234 wrote:a point of principle.......that recognising and respecting any enforced taboo on this forum is inappropriate and fundamentally wrong.......

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin

Does that mean we all should? I hope so, because there’s a lot of twisting of what has actually been said, and you can't quote them, as it's clear as to what they do mean Tony.

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin
Until then you are constantly self marginalising.

And so on the contrary you need to explain yourself (but have free will, to do whatever you want)why you keep reinforcing what they "don't" mean.

Thermate911 wrote:
Why this desperation in trying to defend Zionism, a soul-destroying global plague? Inexplicable, really.

And who - exactly - is "trying to defend Zionism" on this thread? See what you don't seem to be able to get your head round is not being a fan of Zionism doesn't mean you chuck your critical faculties out of the window and believe anything negative anyone says about Zionism, no matter how ridiculous. I'm just waiting for somebody to claim Zionists have tails and sneak into your house to suck the breath from sleeping babies at night.

Furthermore, some people criticise Zionism as a criticism of Zionism. Other people use it meaning "Jew". Like you don't seem arsed either way. You happily post some vacuous cobblers - you can't say one word in defence of - from a blatant racist fruitcake site and you don't bat an eyelid. Earlier in the thread, you were citing Eustace Mullins. Mullins worked for racial segregationist Hitler lover Willis Carto, arguably the most important figure in the postwar American far right. Mullins didn't like Jews. E.g. -

PARASITES IN MANY ASPECTS OF LIFE

Another obsession of the parasite is that it must force its way into every aspect of the host’s existence. It cannot endure the thought of a group of gentiles discussing anything without the parasite or one of his shabez goi agents being present to make notes.

Thus, the Jew campaigns to force his way into every gentile organization, whether it he social, religious, a private school, a club, or a neighborhood, anywhere that the gentiles might be able to gather and talk over things which the Jew wishes to know.

This obsession is due to the fact that the Jew can never know any real security in his parasitic existence. He lives daily with the terrible fear that the host will cast him off, and even when he has obtained control at every level of the gentile's life, the Jew still feels insecure. If the gentile manages to keep him out of anything, the Jew becomes wild with rage.

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.c ... ns_20.html

You seem to have no concept whatsoever of the different ways people view "Jews" and "Zionists", nor any concept that political agendas are not the exclusive preserve of the mainstream. The way you come across suggests you are ideologically far right or are one of those people who thinks they're a smart cookie for being cynical about the MSM, then blindly and uncritically believes anything they see online that says it's 'anti-NWO' or 'anti-Zionist' or whatever.
The 'alternative' media is not more reliable or impartial than the MSM. Any chump can have a website these days. Obvious really isn't it?

I can fully understand the deep concern for the safety of one's tribe but I utterly fail to understand members of that same tribe defending that which is destroying them!

Who's this then? And what "tribe" is this?

@Wakeymedia & Dogsmilk: Your attempts to label me what I most certainly am not are sadly transparent. I have pointed out time and time again that both Zionism and Nazism (a manifestation of the Thule Society) are compassionate mankind's real enemies, and that both these vile factions are themselves being financed and manipulated by a very small coterie of psychopaths.

Where have I labelled you?

I cannot put it plainer than that, yet you continually cloud the issues with non-stop diversionary entanglements & ad homina, which for some reason our editor chooses to ignore. However, even the most scurrilous attempts at character assassination are themselves most instructive for those attuned to such mechanisms.

Carry on, as it has become quite apparent that you have might (and to hell with the truth) on your side:-

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/11/isr ... -gaza.html

Unfortunately for the defense of such as the above example of 'Might', no amount of wealth, lies or weaponry can now stop the global moral outrage rapidly nearing boiling point...

If you're going to post stuff you got from the far right, don't be surprised if people think you're a bit of a Nazi. Honestly - do you live in some kind of bubble or something??

Between them, Zionism and Nazism (= Usury & Fascism) have made an almost untenable desert of all that was good and wholesome in human nature. Hence, I cannot understand or trust in anyone who argues for the continuance of such soulless ideologies.

Zionism is not about usury. That's an absurd thing to say. You are not going to get anywhere coming out with daft statements like that. And there is far more grim stuff to the world than Zionists and Nazis.

Andrew. wrote:

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin

Does that mean we all should? I hope so, because there’s a lot of twisting of what has actually been said, and you can't quote them, as it's clear as to what they do mean Tony.

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin
Until then you are constantly self marginalising.

And so on the contrary you need to explain yourself (but have free will, to do whatever you want)why you keep reinforcing what they "don't" mean.

Dogsmilk Wrote:

Furthermore, some people criticise Zionism as a criticism of Zionism. Other people use it meaning "Jew". Like you don't seem arsed either way.

Here is an example right away Tony, when it's clear that Thermate911 is not saying, has never said and does not mean.

Do you not abhor this too?

Gosling wrote:But racism is banned. And idiotic.

Have you not spotted the blatant racism on this thread? Do you not feel shame at hosting this sort of stuff? Wonder why 911 truth has gained the label of 'holocaust denial' and 'anti-Semitism' which damages us all?

These posters wouldn't be tolerated or last half a second on the J7 forum.

Prole wrote:

Gosling wrote:But racism is banned. And idiotic.

Have you not spotted the blatant racism on this thread? Do you not feel shame at hosting this sort of stuff? Wonder why 911 truth has gained the label of 'holocaust denial' and 'anti-Semitism' which damages us all?

These posters wouldn't be tolerated or last half a second on the J7 forum.

Could you show us the racism prole by quoting what has been written please?

Andrew. wrote:

Prole wrote:

Gosling wrote:But racism is banned. And idiotic.

Have you not spotted the blatant racism on this thread? Do you not feel shame at hosting this sort of stuff? Wonder why 911 truth has gained the label of 'holocaust denial' and 'anti-Semitism' which damages us all?

These posters wouldn't be tolerated or last half a second on the J7 forum.

Could you show us the racism prole by quoting what has been written please?

Why am I not surprised that you are blind to it?

Andrew. wrote:

Andrew. wrote:

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin

Does that mean we all should? I hope so, because there’s a lot of twisting of what has actually been said, and you can't quote them, as it's clear as to what they do mean Tony.

You need to start matching words with what they mean Kevin
Until then you are constantly self marginalising.

And so on the contrary you need to explain yourself (but have free will, to do whatever you want)why you keep reinforcing what they "don't" mean.

Dogsmilk Wrote:

Furthermore, some people criticise Zionism as a criticism of Zionism. Other people use it meaning "Jew". Like you don't seem arsed either way.

Here is an example right away Tony, when it's clear that Thermate911 is not saying, has never said and does not mean.

Do you not abhor this too?

I was pointing out that Thermate does not seem to be able to grasp the concept that people use the word "Zionist" in different ways. He's happy enough to post from a website talking about "kikes" isn't he? Hell -

Thermate911 wrote:I always felt very strongly that you, along with rodin, had been much maligned here for no good reason other than being just a year or two ahead of the herd on the real dangers of Zionism.

What planet's he on? Anybody that's spent any time reading rodin's posts cannot fail to notice the blatant fact rodin is totally obsessed with Jews, not Zionists specifically.

How's The Messiah these days Andrew? Keeping well I hope. And may all his defences be bulletproof.

Why am I not surprised that you are blind to it?

Why can you not quote it prole?

I was pointing out that Thermate does not seem to be able to grasp the concept that people use the word "Zionist" in different ways. He's happy enough to post from a website talking about "kikes" isn't he? Hell -

What is "kikes" ?

How's The Messiah these days Andrew? Keeping well I hope. And may all his defences be bulletproof.

In the bigger picture His fine. And in Bold.

Psalms Chapter 68:4
4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/boo ... =68&verse=

Andrew. wrote:

Why am I not surprised that you are blind to it?

Why can you not quote it prole?

Why do I need to spell it out to someone who quotes the protocols or uses Nazi terminology when referring to Marx?

Take even a cursory glance through some of these and compare the contents to some of the posts here:

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm

If you need something a bit more blatant then:

Andrew wrote:Ok a simple question, if someone is said to be Jewish, does that mean that it is impossible for them to do bad (evil) things the same as anyone else and/or are they a master race that can do no wrong?

What a f**king weird choice. How about if I'd posed you this question:

If someone is said to be a Muad'dibian Fremen does that mean that it is impossible for them to do evil things the same as everyone else and/or are they god's chosen few and can do no wrong?

What a f**king weird choice. How about if I'd posed you this question:

Simple, of course it does not mean they cannot do bad just like anyone else. Can you not say so ?

If someone is said to be a Muad'dibian Fremen does that mean that it is impossible for them to do evil things the same as everyone else and/or are they god's chosen few and can do no wrong?

Yes they can do bad also and do, by God's standards.

Andrew. wrote:

I was pointing out that Thermate does not seem to be able to grasp the concept that people use the word "Zionist" in different ways. He's happy enough to post from a website talking about "kikes" isn't he? Hell -

What is "kikes" ?

Have you ever considered trying out the internet? It can be quite useful sometimes. It has this thing called "google" that you can type a word into and you can find stuff out like what it means and where it's from - a bit like a dictionary and encyclopaedia rolled into one. You should check it out.
Give it a go. If you're not sure about it, you can use it at your local library where the staff will help you. Or just ask The Messiah to turn your Pot Noodle into a laptop with a broadband connection after he's finished that day's healing the sick and raising the dead.
By using internet magic, you might find out "kike" is a really nasty word for "Jew". It may even have something to do with that racism Prole was talking about, you never know.

Have you ever considered trying out the internet?

What do you mean by the word "kikes" ? "you might find out "kike" is a really nasty word for "Jew""

Can a jewish person do bad, just like anyone else?

Andrew. wrote:

Have you ever considered trying out the internet?

What do you mean by the word "kikes" ? "you might find out "kike" is a really nasty word for "Jew""

Can a jewish person do bad, just like anyone else?

What do you think Andrew?

Prole wrote:

Andrew. wrote:

Have you ever considered trying out the internet?

What do you mean by the word "kikes" ? "you might find out "kike" is a really nasty word for "Jew""

Can a jewish person do bad, just like anyone else?

What do you think Andrew?

"Simple, of course it does not mean they cannot do bad just like anyone else. Can you not say so ?"

People have been called racist for things they have not said about Jews and to make an exception for one race is racist. (As some people are saying clearly that “Jews” is/are a race of people)

So Tony should ban or (warn) those, prole, Dogsmilk for being racists.

Andrew. wrote:

Have you ever considered trying out the internet?

What do you mean by the word "kikes" ? "you might find out "kike" is a really nasty word for "Jew""

Can a jewish person do wrong just like anyone else?

Jesus...

"kike" is an offensive word for "Jew". It's like calling a black person a "nigger". Comprende?

Is that ok? Do you need me to tie your shoelaces as well?

Nobody is suggesting Jewish people can do no wrong. What people object to is people blaming things on 'the Jews' and holding prejudice towards Jewish people, ascribing negative traits to them as a group.

So if a black man commits a heinous crime, we can all agree he has done wrong.
If people say black people par se are bad, lazy, stupid, whatever we consider them racist and having a problem with black people.
We may also consider people racist if they are like this but there are one or two black people they happen to like I don't like black people, but he's ok

Similarly if people say bad things about Jews but there are one or two Jews they say they like, we may still consider them an anti-semite. Hell, even Himmler talked about Nazis having their 'good Jews' (which he said they had to get over in that speech about exterminating them)

Nobody is suggesting Jewish people can do no wrong. What people object to is people blaming things on 'the Jews' and holding prejudice towards Jewish people, ascribing negative traits to them as a group.

Thank-You. But it's not been blammed on Jews by posters here, just that some play a big part in our troubles.

Andrew. wrote:

Nobody is suggesting Jewish people can do no wrong. What people object to is people blaming things on 'the Jews' and holding prejudice towards Jewish people, ascribing negative traits to them as a group.

Thank-You. But it's not been blammed on Jews by posters here, just that some play a big part in our troubles.

'Them' 'us' 'some jews' 'our troubles' - hmm.

I take it 'you' aren't one of 'them' then?

Prole wrote:

Andrew. wrote:

Nobody is suggesting Jewish people can do no wrong. What people object to is people blaming things on 'the Jews' and holding prejudice towards Jewish people, ascribing negative traits to them as a group.

Thank-You. But it's not been blammed on Jews by posters here, just that some play a big part in our troubles.

'Them' 'us' 'some jews' 'our troubles' - hmm.

I take it 'you' aren't one of 'them' then?

Which shows your racism yet again, because it should not matter what race people are prole. "Them" "us" "our troubles" would be those people who are not racist and/or have plutocratic ideologies. And/or the “lets get them before they get us” mentality.

Andrew wrote:It needs more Jewish people to *speak out about it, the same as anyone else. The same as people should speak out about none Jews, when they do wrong.

But the fact is Jews (but not all Jews) play the biggest part in it, as those that do follow that ideology, for such a long time have been running the banks and industry, politics, quote (capitalist system.) Etc etc.


*People will and do think that they don't, because they feel safe with the status que, because they are Jews. And that is a disaster waiting to happen.

Let's not forget your quoting of the protocols as well Andew.

Yet in your twisted illogical Messiah obsessed mind, I am the racist?

Nuff said. I wonder when Gosling will decide to pi** or get off the pot and actually address the rabid anti-Semitism displayed here? Or perhaps he allows it because he supports these views?